It has been 2 years since separation and 1 year since divorce filing-
My third temporary support hearing -
#1- I represented my because I could not afford an attorney
#2-
He filed a protection order against me because he said my request for
discovery was harassing because I asked him to show proof of the
disability he is claiming to avoid paying proper support for our
daughter
#3- Postponed - He failed to provide discovery after 11 months past it's required date
I
have been locked up in my room for 8 days reviewing documents and
preparing my case - I do not have the luxury of an accountant (Like he
does) because he removed from all accounts 9 months before separation
with out my knowledge - That nine months I spent earning money and
depositing it into the accounts - Planning my escape! I was not greedy! I
just wanted enough to hire an attorney and obtain a safe home for me an
my children!
The day I finally had the courage - I went to the
bank to get the funds and found out he removed me from accounts when I
was diagnosed with a tumor 9 months earlier!
So now I am in
divorce prison! Excused only for my Birthday and Thanksgiving dinners!
Forced to document the past 12 years of hell and discover more injustice
and betrayal along the way!
I cry when I think of my children
because - I have been locked in my room so many days and I feel so
guilty because they are lacking my attention!
I am sad because- a family that has stood by me and defended me has suffered a tragic loss and I can not be there for them!
The few that stand by you as - your character is assassinated are treasures in life!
My
ex likes to go to different churches and ask them to pray for me
because - "I am a sick alcoholic and I cheated on him because of my
disease - Please pray for my sick alcoholic wife so she can be saved and
return her to me - her one true love!"
It is funny how they
forget - I am just a mom - I put everyone before myself! I have been in a
relationship with one man and I met him after separation! I lived in my
own home! I rarely go out and all my time is devoted to my children and
relationships with those I truly love!
His abuse and threats have made me determined and for the 1st time in my life - I am standing up for myself!
But
it is the kind words and thoughtful actions that are shown towards me
that - GIVE ME STRENGTH - I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF OTHERS !
My Children and I deserve to be free!
Please share and ask that Hope - Love - Kindness will carry us all !
Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Friday, October 12, 2012
Can People with Personality Disorders Have Healthy Relationships?
Stop Walking on Eggshells
When someone in your life has borderline or narcissistic personality disorder.
Compare your high conflict relationship to the test
I wrote something sparked by a comment someone made about not knowing what a normal relationship is, and thought I would share it here. A "high conflict person" means someone with BPD/NPD who is not the conventional help-seeking kind, but the high functioning, abusive kind. A high conflict relationship relationship" means you and the person who has traits of BPD/NPD.
What is a “Normal” Relationship?
Graham: I don’t know what normal is. You mean my wife is not supposed to rage at me in front of the kids, criticize and degrade me, spend all of our money and then some, love me, hate me, need drama, live crisis to crisis, threaten suicide, control everything, blame me for everything wrong in her/our life, and put me and our kids in no-win situations? That was all I knew for over a decade. I just wondered which partner in other relationships who was the blamer and rager and which one was like me.
You may not know what normal is. You may have grown up in households with unhealthy models—sometimes even abuse. So before talk about the high conflict relationship, let’s take a look at what defines a healthy relationship and compare and contrast it with your current relationship. Of course, no relationship is perfect. But it’s helpful to know where you stand and what you’re shooting for.
Traits of Healthy Relationships
A list of what makes for a good relationship could be quite lengthy and might differ from couple to couple. But here are some characteristics mentioned over and over by marital therapists. Ask yourself what’s important to you and whether or not your current relationship meets your needs on a scale of 0 (not there at all) to 5 (high). This isn’t a quiz; just something for you to think about as you look at the whole relationship.
___Respect for Each Other: In a healthy relationship, couples need to make compromises. But neither partner should ask the other one to change things about themselves central to who they are or what they want out of life. Respect is also about treating each other in the way you’d like to be treated, even when you’re angry and frustrated. Other signs of respect include caring about the things that are important to your mate and recognizing that differences are OK.
___Support and Empathy: In a healthy relationship, partners are there for each other with warmth and affection through both good times and bad. Even when their opinions differ, supportive spouses try to see things from their partner’s point of view. Without keeping track on paper and pencil, people in workable marriages attempt to be there equally for each other. Otherwise, partners can get burned out.
___Communication and Sharing: Honest, direct communication is a key part of any relationship. The ability to share your thoughts, feelings and desires in an open and honest way are essential to the level of intimacy and connectedness the two of you share. People are not born knowing how to best communicate and send the right non-verbal signals. It’s a skill that can be learned like any other—if the two people are willing to learn.
___Mutual Trust, Honesty, and Fidelity: Honesty leads to trust, which leads to feelings of safety, probably the most important ingredients in a happy marriage. Trust paves the way for the confidence to share your feelings, emotions, and self with someone else. When someone lies to us, it erodes trust and drives a wedge between the two people in the relationship. Because trust provides the foundation for nearly all relationships, the bond is threatened.
___Enjoying Time Together and Time Apart: Couples also need space for other friends, their own interests, and private time alone. This shouldn’t be threatening to well-adjusted partners—after all, they’ll want some time to themselves, too. When people don’t have enough of their own space, they begin to feel trapped and suffocated. HCPS tend to be enmeshed.
___Fairness/Equality: Relationships marred by power and control struggles lose their intimacy because you can’t afford to be vulnerable with someone who might use it against you. When one or both of you are enmeshed in a power struggle, the simplest decisions (e.g. where should we go to dinner?) become fraught with angst and conflict. It often takes a therapist to unveil the real issues beneath the predictable fights.
___Connection/Intimacy: Emotional intimacy and connectedness happens when we feel loved, accepted, and safe to reveal who we really are, warts and all. The safer we feel, the more we’re willing to share. The rewards are great; it helps us get to know ourselves and it may be the closest we can get to another person in our trip on planet Earth. It is the essence of being loved.
___A Mutually Rewarding Sex Life: The sexual relationship works well and is satisfying for the both of you. This may mean striking compromises about frequency of sex, who initiates, and so forth. Neither partner should try to force the other to do what is beyond their comfort level—although it’s also a good practice to try new things you and your partner might enjoy.
What is a High Conflict Relationship?
These are some BPD/NPD survival strategies. Consider how they might affect whether you and your partner can have a healthy relationship. High conflict behaviors vary in its effect on you by:
• The frequency of these behaviors: the more frequent, the more hurtfulHCPs need others to fill their emptiness by:
• The intensity of the behaviors: the more intense, the more upsetting they are
• The length of time you’ve been exposed to these behaviors: the longer you’ve been exposed to them, the more they will wound you
• Your vulnerabilities and general make up: when you’ve grown up in an abusive environment, HCP behaviors seem “normal” and you’re more likely to put up with them
- Making them feel special
- Carrying their shame
- Waking you up in the middle of the night
- Eliciting narcissistic supply
- Making you part of their identity
- Pulling you toward them and then pushing them away
- Demanding exaggerated attention and admiration
- Demanding unreasonable things
- Pushing your limits in a test to see how much you love them
- Blaming and criticizing you
- Considering you inferior to them
- Idealizing you, then pushing you off a pedestal
- Going along with their fantasies
- Projecting their unwanted parts onto you
- Trying to make you absorb their negative emotions
- Raging at you
- Character assassination
- Embarrassing you in public
- Being demeaning
- Turning children against you
- Telling lies about you to friends and family
- Always being right
They need to control their environment by controlling you, such as:
- Using emotional blackmail, especially fear, obligation and guilt
- Keeping track of your movements
- Putting you in no-win situations
- Isolating you from your friends and family
- Making threats to leave if they don’t get their way
- Calling the police with false accusations
- Breaking up with you and getting back together
- Creating constant chaos
- Insisting you believe their lies
- Taking advantage of you
- Monitoring your computer usage
- Withholding sex and affection
- Forcing or intimidating you to have sexual activities
- Giving you the silent treatment
- Pressuring you to behaving as they want you to
- Threatening to hurt pets or taking your children away
- Expecting you to ask permission
- Acting extremely jealous
- Riding over your boundaries
- Not respecting your privacy
- Pushing you, poking you, slapping you or other physical abuse
Jo: My friend asked me if I wanted to go on a cruise with her this summer. I was so excited! When I said I’d go, I assumed that Lew would be happy for me since I was so thrilled about it. He didn’t say a whole lot and just got really quiet and kind of sulky. I pressed for what was the matter.
He just about freaked out in his room, and started pulling his clothes out of the closet, saying how he doesn’t even have decent clothes that fit him. He put on this one shirt and showed me how the sleeves were too short, so he always has to wear them rolled up. He pretty much tore that shirt off, and then ripped it up and threw it in the trash can. Finally I said I would stay.
Therapy can only work when the client is bothered by their symptoms and takes responsibility for solving them. Narcissists rarely take any personal responsibility--they have an amazing ability to rationalize their problems or blame them on someone or something else.
As one of the commenters said below:
One way to help parse these relationships and think about them(whether they be a friend, spouse, etc) is to ask yourself two questions:
How does this person add value to my life?
How does this person subtract value to my life?
If one value's living a high quality of life over the long haul then one will have to practice discretion in with whom they associate with or continue to associate with. This includes spouses.
If people continually subtract value to your life, over the long term, them it is time to assess whether they are worth having in your life.
It's up to you.
Meredith Baxter: Domestic violence does not discriminate
Luncheon co-chairman Peggy Brown of Darien, left, with Meredith Baxter and Jim Brown of Darien
“I will tell you that being a well-known person and seemingly independent and successful in my chosen field was no defense against treatment at home and it couldn’t touch the shameful feelings that engulfed everything,” she said. “I was trying to not know what I knew. I couldn’t acknowledge that I was in an abusive marriage because that would have required action, and I was too afraid.”
- In her keynote speech, Baxter described how she had grown up in an atmosphere devoid of love and nurturing support and how that pattern had continued into her adult relationships.No one, not even her fellow cast members in the long-running TV series "Family Ties," knew of the abuse she and her children endured during her 15-year marriage to David Birney.
“I was a secret keeper. I was warned that what went on in our house stayed in our house, and I never told anyone. I was too ashamed,” she said.
Baxter revealed that the threat of physical abuse was always present, even though it didn’t actually happen that often. But the verbal and emotional abuse rarely abated.
“It was the constant stream of insults and name-calling and vilification that left the deepest scars,” she told the audience. “The effect of being on the receiving end of verbal abuse must not be minimized. I remember reading that even women of strong fiber and with a great sense of self-worth can be ground to dust by the corrosive effect of constant vitriolic, demeaning, belittling attacks. For me, the words cut far deeper than the slaps.”
Acknowledging that leaving an abusive relationship can be very difficult for many reasons, Baxter urged
ongoing support for those who assist victims of domestic violence.
“Not everybody can get out of damaging relationships easily, and circumstances differ for all of us,” she said.
“That’s why it’s imperative that we support places like the DVCC. In difficult economic times, domestic violence crisis needs become even greater. With almost 4,000 people being served by the DVCC every year, you can see that the need for your support is more urgent than ever.”
Baxter’s talk followed 15 current and former clients of the DVCC who lent their voices and words to an audio presentation on the power of using one’s voice to speak up against abuse and on how the DVCC helped them to do so.
The 10th annual Voices of Courage Spring Luncheon, held May 3 at the Stamford Marriott Hotel, raised over $150,000 for the DVCC that will go toward providing essential services for victims and their children.
The DVCC offers confidential services at no charge, including court and legal services, group and individual counseling, temporary shelter, housing services, children’s services, medical advocacy, multilingual services, the PeaceWorks prevention education project, community education, a 24-hour hotline (1-888-774-2900) and EsperanzaCT, a Spanish language website and 24-hour service line.
DVCC is the only domestic violence agency serving the communities of Stamford, Norwalk, Westport, Darien, New Canaan, Wilton and Weston.
In fiscal year 2010-11, DVCC provided shelter and counseling services to 3,860 unduplicated victims of domestic violence, and PeaceWorks provided awareness programs to 21,771 students and conducted workshops, trainings and awareness events for 3,098 adults.
For more information call 203-588-9100 or visit dvccct.org.
A Gradual, Excruciating Descent Into Domestic Violence
At 44, Karin had a successful career and three nearly-grown children. Then, in 2004, she began a relationship that at first felt dreamy but slowly deteriorated. Eventually, Karin found herself in a position she never imagined: as the victim of domestic violence. Initially, her partner seemed lovely. He was a respected member of her community, well known for his dedication to volunteer work and he was amazingly attentive and romantic. Over time, though, the relationship changed. It was a gradual progression spanning four years, starting with emotional and psychological abuse, and eventually escalating to physical abuse.
Here, Karin bravely shares her story of surviving domestic violence. http://commonhealth.wbur.org/2012/10/a-gradual-excruciating-descent-into-domestic-violence-
It’s a narrative that illustrates how insidious this process can be, and how difficult it is to get out of such relationships. As a survivor, Karin has struggled with her own shame and the guilt she feels for exposing her children to this situation. Today, after a lot of hard work and self-reflection, Karin feels stronger than ever. “I was determined to come out of this kicking,” she said. “And I have.” She has a great job and volunteers for a domestic violence prevention organization; her grown children are doing well and she is newly married. Karin’s story is a reminder that this could happen to any of us, and underscores the importance of trusting your own instinct about what feels right and what feels wrong in a relationship.
Karin was earning six figures and living in a wealthy Boston suburb when she became the victim of domestic abuse.
Domestic violence, defined by the United States Department of Justice “as a pattern of abusive behavior in any relationship that is used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over another intimate partner” permeates our culture. It is estimated that at least 1 in 4 women in the United states will experience domestic violence in their lifetime, and while both men and women can be targeted, the victim is female 85-95% of the time. Domestic violence occurs across all races, ethnicities, socio-economic backgrounds, sexual orientations and religions. Abuse, based on fear and intimidation, can be physical, emotional, psychological, economic, and/or sexual. On a societal level, the costs of domestic violence are tremendous. Health related costs alone are estimated to exceed $5.8 billion annually. As in Karin’s case, domestic violence typically escalates over time. Homicide is often the end result. It is believed that 33% of all female murder victims are killed by in intimate partner. For the most part, these homicides are predictable and preventable. By educating ourselves about the issue, we can all become a part of the solution.
Most importantly, Karin wants everyone to know that resources are available. If you have any concerns, seek help.
For information, services and help for yourself or someone you care about:
The Domestic Violence Services Network, Inc. www.dvsn.org 1-888-399-6111(Dr. Annie Brewster is a Boston internist who became interested in storytelling as a way to promote healing among patients. You can hear more of her stories here, here and here, as part of our Listening To Patients series.)
1-877-785-2020 is a 24-hour, free and confidential multi-lingual domestic violence hotline in Massachusetts
To find the domestic violence program nearest you outside of Massachusetts, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (800-799-7233).
To learn more about domestic violence and sexual assault, visit
http://www.ovw.usdoj.gov/domviolence.htm
http://www.janedoe.org/learn_more/what_is_dv#What_abuse.
To find programs that help people who abuse/control their partners, visit http://www.janedoe.org/know/know_resources.htm.
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Why Do Women Return to Abusive Relationships?
Why Do Women Return to Abusive Relationships?
From an outsider’s point of view, it is nearly impossible to fathom why a woman might return to an abusive relationship. While it seems logical that a woman would maintain her independence after going through the trouble of leaving an abusive relationship, there are many things that might also compel her to return. Fear is one of the primary reasons that women return to abusive relationships.
Often, abusive men step up their threatening and manipulative behavior right after their victims choose to leave. As a result, many women come to fear more severe abuse if they refuse to return to their abusers. The situation becomes even more complicated when there are children involved, as many women return to abusive relationships in the belief that doing so is the only way to protect their children. Many women try to act as human shields, sacrificing themselves to stop abusive mates from harming their children.
Sometimes, the abuser may play on the woman’s love for her children, convincing her that she cannot support them alone. The abuser may also play on the woman’s desire for her children to have a father, convincing her to return to him. Even when women maintain their commitment to leaving abusive relationships, the legal system sometimes fails them by failing to grant restraining orders or by giving the batterers custody of the children.
Sometimes, as a result of abuse, a woman’s self-esteem is so damaged that she lacks the confidence to maintain independence from her abuser. Often, women who leave abusive relationships have trouble earning an adequate income or finding safe and affordable housing. Women may feel compelled to return to abusive relationships because they lack resources and support.
Sometimes, an abused woman's own family members and friends place the blame on her, perhaps because they assume that she somehow caused the abuse. In some cases, the woman's family and friends may act as if the abuse is bearable or deny its existence altogether. If the abused woman is married, friends and family may try to talk her out of divorce, often citing religious reasons.
In some cases, women return to abusive relationships because they feel sorry for their abusers. A common tactic batterers use to control their mates is threatening to commit suicide. This may lead the victim to feel both guilty and worried, and she may return to the relationship to save the abuser. Just as often, batterers are able to convince their victims that they love them and are committed to changing. Believing the batterers and hoping for real change, some women return to these abusive relationships.
According to statistics, the average abused woman leaves her abuser seven to eight times before she leaves permanently. Victims of abuse often live in a state of fear, confusion, and overwhelming sadness. To make a successful and permanent separation from an abuser, a woman needs support and easy access to organizations dedicated to aiding victims of abuse. With this support and the understanding that the abuse will continue if they return, many abused women are able to leave abusive relationships permanently.
YOUR MOTHER IS A HEROIN ADDICT
Living with sociopath is like visiting a haunted house. You never know what is around the next corner. Everything is calm and quiet for a second and then boom. The crazy person comes home and turns your world upside down.
Several years ago, I was diagnosed with an ovarian tumor and was scheduled to have a full hysterectomy. One day prior to surgery the kids were watching TV and I was in the kitchen making dinner. My Ex came home and out of the blue announced the following.
Ex: Hey Kids, Did you know your mother is an heroin addict.
Me: Why would you say such a thing, I have never and would never do anything like that.
Ex: BS you did it when you gave birth to your daughter.
Me: I did not, why are you saying these things?
Ex: Yes you did, you were on that morphine pump for days and morphine is heroin. You are just having surgery now so you can ride the white horse.
Ex: Kids, your mother is a heroin addict and she is going to the hospital to ride the white horse.
At this point, I knew defending myself further would just cause the situation to escalate. So I did what any mother accused of such a horrible act. I refused morphine after my surgery. The doctor's told me it was not a good idea and other pain medicine could have adverse reactions. I still declined the morphine and the the pain killers prescribed after surgery caused violent bouts of vomiting and extreme itching. The vomiting was very painful after major abdominal surgery but, I could honestly say I did not do heroin and my kids would know their mother was not a heroin addict.
I was watching a movie last night with my kids that reminded me of this. In the movie a mom was rushed into emergency surgery just as I was when my daughter was born. The anesthesia was administered through my epidural and it caused a nerve to pinch in my leg. After surgery I remained in the hospital for 4 days.
The memories of that time with him and the hateful things he did brought tears to my eyes. Today it reminds me of his sickness and how grateful I am to be free. His outlandish lies he would tell my children to hurt me were just another thing he did to control me. They were used to under mind my children's belief in me, cause me pain and suffering. THESE ARE NOT ACTIONS OF A LOVING FATHER AND HUSBAND. THEY ARE ABUSE!
Several years ago, I was diagnosed with an ovarian tumor and was scheduled to have a full hysterectomy. One day prior to surgery the kids were watching TV and I was in the kitchen making dinner. My Ex came home and out of the blue announced the following.
Ex: Hey Kids, Did you know your mother is an heroin addict.
Me: Why would you say such a thing, I have never and would never do anything like that.
Ex: BS you did it when you gave birth to your daughter.
Me: I did not, why are you saying these things?
Ex: Yes you did, you were on that morphine pump for days and morphine is heroin. You are just having surgery now so you can ride the white horse.
Ex: Kids, your mother is a heroin addict and she is going to the hospital to ride the white horse.
At this point, I knew defending myself further would just cause the situation to escalate. So I did what any mother accused of such a horrible act. I refused morphine after my surgery. The doctor's told me it was not a good idea and other pain medicine could have adverse reactions. I still declined the morphine and the the pain killers prescribed after surgery caused violent bouts of vomiting and extreme itching. The vomiting was very painful after major abdominal surgery but, I could honestly say I did not do heroin and my kids would know their mother was not a heroin addict.
I was watching a movie last night with my kids that reminded me of this. In the movie a mom was rushed into emergency surgery just as I was when my daughter was born. The anesthesia was administered through my epidural and it caused a nerve to pinch in my leg. After surgery I remained in the hospital for 4 days.
The memories of that time with him and the hateful things he did brought tears to my eyes. Today it reminds me of his sickness and how grateful I am to be free. His outlandish lies he would tell my children to hurt me were just another thing he did to control me. They were used to under mind my children's belief in me, cause me pain and suffering. THESE ARE NOT ACTIONS OF A LOVING FATHER AND HUSBAND. THEY ARE ABUSE!
Tuesday, October 9, 2012
Help! I'm Divorcing a Narcissist
The narcissist does not get over it already!
The common thinking is that those adults with children, who divorce and continue to battle post divorce, must both have major psychological issues. After all, who would do this to the children? These are the cases that exhibit increased tension, post parenting difficulties, and often need child family investigators and parent coordinators to determine parenting time.
But, enter the condition of narcissism. What if you married a narcissist who is all about what is good for him or her, rather than what is in the best interest of the children? The narcissist makes unrealistic demands, is not emotionally connected to the children, may be emotionally abusive or worse, but will fight to the end to gain revenge or fight in the interest of his/her own needs. The fight may be economically based, or more likely what is known as a narcissistic injury. That person will never get over or forget that you filed for divorce or abandoned them, and will continue to make life difficult for you and the children. What do you do?
Most parents I have worked with over the years, who have married a narcissist and are in the process of divorce, find themselves having to take a strong stance to protect their kids. They find they have to be involved in post-divorce assessments and battles and then are at risk of being assessed themselves as just one of those crazy "high-conflict" couples. The danger here is that the children's best interest may not be served if narcissism is not understood in the case. It is true that one person who is narcissistic can unilaterally cause serious conflict that causes the other parent to go into defense mode to protect themselves and the children. Given that emotional abuse is difficult to prove and not taken seriously by the courts in most states, the war is on in these cases where one parent is causing havoc and the other is just trying to defend and protect. But does this mean they are both psychologically disturbed in some way? Not always.
To reiterate, if you marry a narcissist and then divorce that person, the narcissist will not forgive and forget. They do not move on easily. They cling to "how could you abandon me or do this to me" and the anger lingers for long periods of time, sometimes years and years. To imagine that one could process through an amicable divorce with a narcissist and stay friends and co-parent in a reasonable manner is not realistic with narcissists. They do things such as excessively disparage the other parent, resort to making up unfair and untrue allegations, and do not want to financially support the children because that somehow means to them that they are giving money to their ex-spouse. Their entitlement needs get in the way of fairly dividing property and money and in the end they do not think of what is best for the child or children. They think about what is best for them! "It is my parenting time!" "You cannot have sporting events on my time!" "Your mother (or father) is taking all my money."
Because narcissists do not have the capacity for empathy and emotionally tuning into the needs of others, the children's emotional needs are not realized. Thriving on constant conflict is the narcissist's way to stay connected and fight for his or her own rights rather than consider what works for the children. In fact, being oblivious to the needs of the children is usually observed.
My concern is first for the children in these families, then for the spouse who married the narcissist who is also being seen as a conflict designer. The helping professionals in divorce cases need continued education on this issue. Without a deeper understanding, we are losing the opportunity to truly assist families going through the life changing and emotionally wrenching experience of divorce. Narcissism is a disorder that wreaks havoc in these families. If this is you, make sure your attorney is well informed. There will need to be professionals involved to assist in how to deal with the narcissist parent. It is advised that the children attend therapy with a professional who understands the dynamics of narcissism and how that affects children. Some parenting plans that reflect a good understanding of narcissistic parenting will be needed.
Why one would marry a narcissist is a no-brainer. They can be charming, enticing, engaging and easily put on a show in the beginning of relationships. They are out there for you to fall in love with. You will only know the reality as you get to know them better over a period of time. But if you decide to divorce, reach out for some specialized assistance! You and your kids are worth it.
Additional Resources:
Book: Will I Ever Be Good Enough? Healing the Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers http://www.amazon.com/Will-Ever-Good-Enough-Narcissistic/dp/14391...
Audiobook: Will I Ever Be Good Enough? Healing the Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers http://www.willieverbegoodenough.com/buy-the-book.php
Website: www.nevergoodenough.com and www.karylmcbridephd.com
Survey: Is This My Mom? Use this to assess if your parent has narcissistic traits. It is applicable for men as well. http://www.willieverbegoodenough.com/survey.php
Research: Interview You? http://www.willieverbegoodenough.com/for-men.php
FB Parties for Adult Children of Narcissists: http://www.facebook.com/DrKarylMcBride
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